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    It's true that this is my second post, but I've been a member over a year since Jan 6, 2003...I was hoping that would count for something, but I guess not. Like I said, I've been a lifelong fan of PM Dawn, but I've never been much of a message board type of guy - I mainly checked here periodically to get updates on Jim Sullivan syndrome, and any other pertinent PM Dawn news.

    But it's all good - I didn't realize that I had to be part of an inner circle to qualify...I just figured being a lifelong fan and admirer of PM Dawn's work was good enough, but hey, rules are rules.

    Be, if you happen to read this - keep doing your thing, and best of luck with The Jim Sullivan Syndrome and any other future endeavors.

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    Hey man, I didn't make those rules, and I DO sympathize with your position...
    But there are some things you need to understand.

    Firstly, when most people who have been waiting for Fucked Music (for YEARS, mind you) find out that it is going to finally be given to them by Be, they are more than happy to become more active here and make a few posts and whatnot. I mean, this is an album that they thought they would never get. It's minimal effort for a treasured item. NOT a big deal, you dig?

    You don't have to be part of an "inner circle". This is not a clique, it's more like a family, and the doors are open for ANYBODY who gives a f---. This includes you. No one is barring you from posting more... you just haven't been granted the full private message privileges due to the fact that no one even knew you ever VISITED this forum until now.

    I wasn't a message board person, either, until I saw that Be visited this site and that all the fans were cool people... It meant something to me to be able to converse with like-minded individuals and Be himself. Fucked is a personal work, and all of us are lucky he was nice enough to even share it with us. We are his friends. That's why he extended this recent invitation to people here (geared towards the more FREQUENT visitors, I'm sure. They've been begging Be for ages, and he wanted to give them a chance for their patience and loyalty, I think). So, feel free to become a friend too and you will get to share in Be's personal works.

    People have given him too much shit about this in the past, and I for the most part kept my mouth shut 'cause I understood the frustration people felt, but this is by far THE most ridiculous complaint I've heard yet here. Life is give and take, man. You give, and you get to take. Hardly anything in life is free. And for the chance to obtain a copy of Fucked, being a part of a cool community is a very very small price to pay. In my opinion, it's nothing but win-win. So please don't bitch anymore. You're lucky, and we're all lucky. So laying a guilt trip is not at all effective.

    If Be disagrees with the current rules set in place, he can definitely tell Hax about it and I KNOW such rules would be demolished. Thing is, I believe these rules are set in place to protect Be. In fact, I don't think he wants just anybody who comes around to have Fucked. It's my belief as of this moment that he wants to feel secure that the people receiving it have some truth, some loyalty, some respect... and he can mostly trust people who are a part of this family. I mean, I'm sure he wasn't planning on giving this album to someone who just wants to turn around and sell it on ebay or something. Not to say that that is you, 'cause I don't know you. But that's the point. If we don't know you, then how DO we know?

    Sorry to offend you. Sorry if this seems like a clique to you. Sorry if you don't want to say hello to us a few times in order to get an awesome album. I mean, shit... if I were in your shoes and I absolutely positively hated being on forums and just did not want to be a part of one with everything in me... I think I could still summon the strength to make the bare minimum of posts in order to earn PM privileges. I didn't mean to be rude, but it just upsets me that it's not worth it to you to have something so small expected of you in order to get something in return.

    maybe we'll see you around.
    peace and love to you, Srich.
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    Sorry Srich3131, but Liz is right. None of us are in a click here, and I myself don't post as much as many of the others here, BUT I do make the effort to be a part of this family and get to know everyone. We have had alot of recent newcommers which is cool, and the same thing applies to them. No one said, you or they couldn't have it. But if you want it, then you have to prove to Be himself that you should have it. Hell I don't even have my own copy of it. We all love Be, we all love PM Dawn, and we all love and respect each other. Not a bad thing, especially considering other message forums out there. The fact that Be takes the time to post and offers something to his fans (for free, I believe)...it's not asking much to just come hang out and get to know him and us..for the priveledge to get something MANY PM Dawn fans will never see (some of us here still don't have it) is not asking that much. It's an awesome album that, as Liz said, is very personaly to Be, so chill out, read some post, make some posts and maybe you'll get it. AND YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WHO GETS IT IS ENTIRELY UP TO BE, NOT US, POSTS OR NOT.
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    Or you could be like me and just tell be you're very confused at him now.... :bowlaugh:
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    :bowlaugh: :bowlaugh: :bowlaugh: :bowlaugh: :bowlaugh: :bowlaugh:

    FUH Q Nigga... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :


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    oh yeah...for all those concerned...fucked music is not for sale...it is a gift to friends that i really had no business selling ...well pimping rather...in the first place



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    Sometimes the inner pimp just comes crawlin outta ya tho. When the inner pimp comes a callin you have to at least ring the bell once. (or is it slap the bitch?---where the hell was i going with this?)
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    elizabeth that was the best post youve ever made..i totally agree
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    Originally posted by Be@Mar 11 2004, 09:00 PM
    :bowlaugh: :bowlaugh: :bowlaugh: :bowlaugh: :bowlaugh: :bowlaugh:

    FUH Q Nigga... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :


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    wow... thanks Hero.



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    We definatly consider it a privledge. I've been emailed at least once a week or more since it came out to get copies to people. We take it seriously and the respect we have for being friends with Be. People have offered me the biggest things, money,etc. Its just not something that money/gifts can buy....truely.

    Just hang out, became part of our crowd and just enjoy pm dawn, and right...the fact that Be even bothers to post to us on here at all.

    Lol, we're a hard core group but a damn Loving family-ish atmosphere. We all don't know everything about everyone, we are Always learning something new, but keeps it intereseting and fun.

    So come join, sit, relax, and have fun.....

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    I want to add roast marshmellows as well but that sorta falls in under "having fun".
    I do not suppose I shall be remembered for anything. But I don't think about my work in those terms. It is just as vulgar to work for the sake of posterity as to work for the sake of money.

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    First of all - let me apologize to Elizabeth and anyone else that I might have offended with my earlier post...that completely wasn't my intention, and for that I am sincerely sorry. I certainly didn't become a member of this board to stir up any trouble - I was just expressing some frustration at the rules that were set in place. Nothing personal, and no disrespect was meant towards to Elizabeth, PM Dawn, the members of this forum, or the moderators that are in charge. I really mean that, so hopefully that will be taken sincerely.

    However, I have to admit that I'm little bummed about some of the comments in Elizabeth's post, and I feel that some things were said that should be responded to.

    Firstly, when most people who have been waiting for Fucked Music (for YEARS, mind you) find out that it is going to finally be given to them by Be, they are more than happy to become more active here and make a few posts and whatnot. I mean, this is an album that they thought they would never get. It's minimal effort for a treasured item. NOT a big deal, you dig?
    Yeah, I dig. I understand that many people have been waiting for years for Fucked Music - I should know, because I am also one of those people. It's not like I did a google search on PM Dawn last week, found this forum, and then thought to myself "Cool, they're giving away free CD's! I'm always down for getting some free music!" Like I said before, I am a true lifelong fan of PM Dawn, and just because I don't post regularly on a message board does not make me any less of a fan than you or anyone else here (no, I'm not saying that you said that in your post, but I felt that needed to be said anyway). You're right though, you don't know me, so I should probably share a little background about me, and why I care so much PM Dawn and potentially listening to Fucked Music. I'm a former college basketball player, and unfortunately, my senior season was cut short by a congential heart abnormality. After spending a long time in the hospital wondering whether or not I would live or die, and truly almost giving up on everything, it was my collection PM Dawn CD's that gave me, what I felt, was divine inspiration to fight through all of the tests, treatments, and uncertainty about my future to keep fighting no matter what. Even though it was five years ago last January, I can still remember the sound of the lyrics of "Faith in You" playing in my beat-up Sony Walkman (sorry if this all sounds cheesy, but I'm trying to keep it as real as possible),
    "So if no one else believes in you
    I'm completely yours, and I've got so much faith in you
    No matter what this life puts in front of you
    You can save this world
    I've got so much faith in you"

    Those lyrics were like a divine mantra to keep me going when even most of the doctors truly believed that I would die. So, to make a long story as short as possible, the happy ending to all of this is that I beat the odds, I'm still here, and most importantly, I'm in the best health of my life (even better than my college athlete days a few years back), and I feel that was in no small part to PM Dawn's incredibly powerful, inspirational, touching, and most of all, personal music. Well anyway, the point of sharing all of that wasn't to bore you, but I wanted to make it clear that although I don't have over 1,000 posts on this message board that I still have as much love and respect for PM Dawn's music (if not more) as anyone else here. So to answer your question - yes, I do understand that making a few posts to get such a treasured item is hardly a big deal, but when I posted earlier, I was frustrated with a rule that I felt might exclude me from listening to an album that I really hoped to listen to solely because I didn't post here more often...that's all.

    People have given him too much shit about this in the past, and I for the most part kept my mouth shut 'cause I understood the frustration people felt, but this is by far THE most ridiculous complaint I've heard yet here. Life is give and take, man. You give, and you get to take. Hardly anything in life is free. And for the chance to obtain a copy of Fucked, being a part of a cool community is a very very small price to pay. In my opinion, it's nothing but win-win. So please don't bitch anymore.
    That's pretty harsh. Where in my previous post was I giving anyone any shit? I didn't feel that my last post was ridiculous or insulting to anyone. When I said in my last post, "rules are rules" - that wasn't said sarcastically...the rules are in place for a reason, and I 100% respect that. But yes, I was frustrated, because I feared at the time that I could possibly miss out AGAIN on the opportunity of a lifetime to get to listen to this album. So when I read your initial post that said "That's a privilege that, at the moment, is only for people who've posted a little more than you have" I initially felt like this message board was like an "inner circle" that I would have to work my way into in order to prove my worthiness as a true PM Dawn fan. It's entirely my fault that I made that misinterpretation, and for that I am sincerely sorry.

    I still do feel that I was within my rights to express my frustration, and I have to admit that I didn't think it was too cool to be dismissed with "please don't bitch anymore." I didn't feel like anything I said my last post was "bitching" about anything, and never once did I say that I had a problem posting more often and being a more active member of this community - so I'm not sure where that came from. I know that one person doesn't represent an entire community of people, but that kinda left me with a bad taste in my mouth. But regardless of that, I'm still in a tough situation, because now if I attempt to post more often, it's going to appear that I'm only doing so to get my hands on Fucked Music as opposed to getting to know the community here. But that's my problem, and I don't want to make it seem like I'm bitching about it.

    Bottom line is regardless of how much of a fan I am of PM Dawn, what stuff I went through earlier in my life, how many CD's I own etc...I completely understand that it doesn't mean that I should somehow be entitled to listen to Fucked Music - not only would that be incredibly self-centered, but it would also be as pretty silly as well. It's not my call to determine who is deserving to get to listen to this, and I will respect whatever rules are in place to ensure Fucked Music always ends up in the right hands.

    All the best Be, and best of luck with your future endeavors. I'll definitely be keeping eye out for the Jim Sullivan Syndrome in the future. Peace.

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    srich u may be the biggest pm dawn fan in the world..but thats not the point..be is only giving the album to his friends..and people he knows.. any by actually participating in the forums and the chats..u actually become friends with the man..fucked music is a highly personal album..so be is giving it to those he knows..
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    Seriously hon, you have to take it as we are protective, not offensive. Lol, almost like the protective older sibling.

    Be's our man, he's our friend. We've taken time to get to know him, talk to him, hang out with him.

    we get your not totally into the forum, but as wanting to make a new friend and maybe get your hands on a lil piece of magic, show pm dawn they are worth the effort of getting to know his friends and Him.

    we are not bagging on you for being a non poster. Or by any means not paying respect to the pain you suffered. Its not about that.

    We're simply asking...hang out..make a new friend or two...you *might* just like us. Then see how it goes and if you get the album. I still am amazed sometimes myself sometimes knowing I actually *know(saying that loosely cause i know bits)* Be. that i've talked to him, he actually knows stuff that goes on my life, i've hung out with him. Maybe look at it as....you can be coming into a whole other world/experience.

    Its all about love *smile* so sit back, relax, don't be all worried about it, and enjoy being able to talk to some other fans who have let PM Dawn effect their lives.

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    Dreamrib, thanks a lot for that post - I really appreciate that you took the time to write me back, and explain your point of view (and I assume it's also view of most of the folks that frequent this board) in a very nice, chill manner.

    I 100% understand where you're coming from, and I totally agree with everything you said as well. You guys should be protective of the priviledges you've all earned here, and I'll gladly do my best to get to know everyone here so I can also become a part of this community as well.

    Thanks again Dreamrib. Peace.

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    Any time hon, we want you to feel welcome and we appreciate your side & listening to mine!

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    In that case...welcome aboard Srich! :wavey:
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    Welcome Srich...Glad to have you here, and I hope that you will enjoy it here as much as I have. I look forward to getting to know you!

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    Originally posted by dreamrib@Mar 13 2004, 01:59 AM
    So come join, sit, relax, and have fun.....

    yeah, when you've been here long enough to forget that the album even exists until Be (or some newbie in the ask be forum) posts about it....that's when you've been here..and when you're here long enough for chief to call your radio show and pretend to be from a webhost company where you left them with no choice but to turn their webcams off...well, when you're friends enough to have them convince you to call and get them shut off in the first place, that's when you're a friend...or maybe that's just peer pressure...never mind...i don't even know why i originally made this post...


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