Wait now...Rawls is GAY? And is Stringer gonna sell his boy out?
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Wait now...Rawls is GAY? And is Stringer gonna sell his boy out?
YUP, to BOTH questions!!! :rock: :rock: :rock:Quote:
Originally posted by Louis85@Nov 29 2004, 11:48 AM
Wait now...Rawls is GAY? And is Stringer gonna sell his boy out?
And now that Brother Mouson is back, I wonder who he's REALLY after? :shock:
that was hilarious that rawls was gay :kekeke: the cutty & bunny storyline/characters have been so good..i told you stringer would get barksdale..but the question is..will omar get stringer 1st..or will brother mouzon get omar before that!!! the final episodes are gonna be amazing!! :bigthumb:
oh and you know the church dude who's helping cutty/dennis.. that melvin williams aka little melvin Melvin Williams had a dude working for him named "Chin" who took college business courses, developed the hop over the number keys phone system (see season 1) and ran a print shop as a front. Williams also had people named Barksdale and Bell working from him in Baltimore (circa late 70's to the mid 80's) the whole show was sort of based on that case..theres an interview with him in the wire book
NO SHIT! :shock:
Wow, that's deep Tim! :shock:
? to you coz and louis.. does brother mouzone know stringer bell got omar to try and kill him?
I think he suspects it. He knows that Omar was fed some bullshit by somebody.Quote:
Originally posted by HieroHero@Dec 8 2004, 04:24 AM
? to you coz and louis.. does brother mouzone know stringer bell got omar to try and kill him?
I certainly hope so. It would be cool if Mouzone confronts Omar at gunpoint and he tells him he is going after Stringer instead. I'd like to see both Barksdale and Stringer get capped. I want Omar to live.
Louis
I want Stringer to get it... He's a bitch ass Niqqa!!
I like barksdale!! For some reason, he's a real...niqqa!!
WORD!Quote:
Originally posted by Louis85@Dec 8 2004, 11:44 AM
I certainly hope so. It would be cool if Mouzone confronts Omar at gunpoint and he tells him he is going after Stringer instead. I'd like to see both Barksdale and Stringer get capped. I want Omar to live.
Louis
barksdale the bitch!! why does the man who uses his brain is a bitch and the one who comes back from jail starts making bodies fall and actin a fool isnt!! :slap: if stringer goes down i want d's mom to have somethin 2 do with it..Quote:
Originally posted by Chukwuka@Dec 9 2004, 07:12 AM
I want Stringer to get it... He's a bitch ass Niqqa!!
I like barksdale!! For some reason, he's a real...niqqa!!
barksdale the bitch!! why does the man who uses his brain is a bitch and the one who comes back from jail starts making bodies fall and actin a fool isnt!! :slap: if stringer goes down i want d's mom to have somethin 2 do with it.. [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by HieroHero+Dec 8 2004, 05:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (HieroHero @ Dec 8 2004, 05:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Chukwuka@Dec 9 2004, 07:12 AM
I want Stringer to get it... He's a bitch ass Niqqa!!
I like barksdale!! For some reason, he's a real...niqqa!!
Maybe I'm coming from a street perspective... Stringer is real but I dig him don't get me wrong.. but regardless he's a street brotha... He didn't keep it real with the one who made him (Avon)... Cuz without AVON stringer wouldn't be where he is... The only reason why Stringer is there is cuz AVON drops bodies whether you wanna admit it or not....
Maybe I'm coming from a street perspective... Stringer is real but I dig him don't get me wrong.. but regardless he's a street brotha... He didn't keep it real with the one who made him (Avon)... Cuz without AVON stringer wouldn't be where he is... The only reason why Stringer is there is cuz AVON drops bodies whether you wanna admit it or not.... [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by Chukwuka+Dec 9 2004, 04:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Chukwuka @ Dec 9 2004, 04:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Quote:
Originally posted by HieroHero@Dec 8 2004, 05:15 PM
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@Dec 9 2004, 07:12 AM
I want Stringer to get it... He's a bitch ass Niqqa!!
I like barksdale!! For some reason, he's a real...niqqa!!
barksdale the bitch!! why does the man who uses his brain is a bitch and the one who comes back from jail starts making bodies fall and actin a fool isnt!! :slap: if stringer goes down i want d's mom to have somethin 2 do with it..
I don't know, could be the other way around. Maybe without Stringer Avon would only be some 2 bit thug. ;)
I think they both needed each other to be successful way back when--a brains and brawns thing. But the scariest thing for Avon is the game has really changed. His method of just bullying his way into the drug game is obsolete. They have turned into more of a cartel than a free market, due to the reduce channels of the available product. If he could just use his brain and listen to Stringer, they could really make some money, drug money and scrubbed "legit" money. But he is not willing to listen to him and that will be his downfall. Plus he let his personal feelings (his disdain for Monroe) get in the way of smart business. Never good. That's what makes the show real though. Every good criminal eventually gets tripped up by something.
Louis
I agree... Good point COZ!! I'm still stick'n to my theory!! Did String invest some money or how did he even become a partner... I just don't like the way String killed ole D... that was my guy... He could've been real about it!!! but that's the way the game goes...
MAN, I love that show!!!
Got gossip'n like some females and shit watch'n soaps...
I think String and Avon probably grew up as best friends. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing ALL of them get it, especially at the hands of Omar. :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:Quote:
Originally posted by Chukwuka@Dec 10 2004, 10:34 AM
I agree... Good point COZ!! I'm still stick'n to my theory!! Did String invest some money or how did he even become a partner... I just don't like the way String killed ole D... that was my guy... He could've been real about it!!! but that's the way the game goes...
MAN, I love that show!!!
Got gossip'n like some females and shit watch'n soaps...
as long as omar survives!! :bigthumb:
Roger that.
interestin post by david simon on the hbo boards...
> Dear Mr Simon
>
> Your show is the best ever.
> Why do you feel that the show has not become a huge
> hit? Everyone who watches it loves it, the critics
> have given great reviews (which are completely
> deserved), the acting is amazing, the writing is
> amazing, I don't understand why the ratings and
> popularity don't skyrocket. Do you feel HBO
> advertises enough? Before I started watching the
> show I don't think I ever saw a commercial for it,
> only posters and magazine ads. I want everyone to
> watch your show because it is so amazing and there
> are so many people who don't know what their missing.
Reasons why the Wire is not a "hit."
1) Cast predominantly black. Predominantly white nation stereotypes it as "black show" and feels comfortable ignoring same.
2) Requires thought and commitment to watch and absorb complex plotlines and subtleties. Television in America is by an large a vegetative medium.
3) Filmed in Baltimore. Baltimore? What the fuck?
4) Although supported by HBO and given creative license, first and second seasons had most episodes premiering at ten o'clock following Arliss or Sex in City -- shows that had very different appeal and audiences, I think. Third season premiers at nine, but alas, this fall NFL football and Desperate Housewives have the cultural zeitgeist surrounded.
5) Not enough happy endings.
6) I can't understand what the Negros are saying.
7) What the hell is a D.N.R.?
8) Not an Emmy nom to be found. Did I mention it was written and filmed and produced by people who don't live in New York or Los Angeles.
Either all of the above or maybe we just aren't worth watching. That could be it as well. I can't blame HBO for anything, save, possibly, failing to get the DVDs out in advance of the third season and failing to get both seasons out there. That was, I think, an unfortunate mistake for a show as ornate as this one and I have said so to the folks involved. But as for scheduling, not everything can follow the Sopranos. They need to schedule year round, and frankly, something had to go up against the ESPN Sunday night game and Housewives. I will say, though, I don't think any HBO show short of the Sopranos would have suffered in that timeslot. But the bottom line: HBO didn't fight us to make our show more commercial, less smart or more lamely and weakly "accessible." They didn't ask us to whiten the show, or make it happier, or less angry or whatever. They have been brave. Moreso than any other network in the medium's long, lugubrious history. Cut them slack.
and this,,
should add that Wee Bey is doing life, no parole. Hard fact to overcome and a little incredible to try, don't you think. Here's the thing and I say it all the time and no one seems to believe it but the writers: To make a world credible and to make a story meaningful, the story must be pre-eminent, not the character. By that I mean, yes, Hassan is a wonderful actor and so is Idris, and so is Wood, and so is Chris Bauer and James Ransone and Larry Gilliard and Wallace, oh geez, don't even get me started on Wallace...and all of it doesn't mean anything to us whatsoever. We aren't interested in preserving characters or featuring them more because the audience wants it. Forgive me, but the audience is like a small child. If given what they wanted every day, it would be ice cream and cake and seven hours of daytime television. Because the audience of a television show, by and large, feels an allegiance to what came before on a serial drama, to the scenes and moments and characters that are familiar or that pleased them in the past. On Homicide, everyone seemed to want every episode to end with Detective Pembleton going into the interrogation room and winning a case by an act of intellectual prowess. But having told that story, neither Andre Braugher nor the writers wanted to beat it to death. A story told is a story over and so if you don't want to watch The Wire because anything familiar and pleasing is no longer available to you as a viewer in the amounts you desire, then okay, I understand. But you were never really watching The Wire then, in my opinion. That's not to convince you that you shouldn't like what you, or want what you want, or make your own choices as to what stories you wish to enjoy on television or in any other medium. But all of the angst over please don't kill Avon, please don't kill Stringer, please don't kill Omar, please don't kill Marlo, please don't let Kima die or let McNulty get even with Rawls or whatever -- what can I say? You can't petition this show on behalf of character. We don't care about character except to the extent that good characters serve a story well. Story is all.
Damm...I like that mufuh! :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:
He's right too. A bunch of us were shocked when he didn't have Avon's whole crew bagged at the end of season 1, and that Stringer was still on the streets. Then you realized that the story was bigger than the characters, and since life ain't cut and dried the story aint either. So now, instead of looking forward to Omar getting Avon or McNutty getting Stringer every week, I look forward to seein whatever's goin to happen...can't predict shit and it's better that way! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
OK...don't nobody say NUTHIN until Tim aknowledges that he's seen this week's episode!!!!!!!
OK TIM, GET TO DOWNLOADIN BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:
[My 2 pacos] I think when I watch a series such as this, I route for things to happen. Some characters, good or bad, I like, and some characters good or bad I don't like. If they whole show goes the way I route complete, then I lose respect for it because it's predictable. If the show goes no way I expect, then I lose respect because it's unrealistic. So a good series will hit that happy medium for me, e.g. some things will happen that I like and expect, some that don't like or don't respect. That's just the way I like it. [/My 2 pacos]
Louis
And I think we can safely say that you like this show now Louis...even tho you may not have been sure from the beginning? if you don't like it after the latest episode I doubt you ever will. :)
I'm pinning this shit cause I don't want anybody spoiling it fot Heiro. In 3 fukkin seasons this is the best episode ever! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
I have always liked it. But you have to admit there have been a few slooow shows. But yes, this was one of the best, if not THE best episode of the Wire I have ever seen. (Catch up Timmy!!!)
Louis
(p.s. Forgive all the typos and incoherent nature of my last post. Watching that Jets game last night fried my brain. :tinker: )
Yeah, my brain was fried too (still is), I won't blame the game tho...heheheheheh.....
And yeah, you're right, there have been some really sloooow episodes. But there is no other show that I look forward to every week or between seasons anywhere near as much as The Wire! :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:
After "Six Feet", and since the fact that "Oz" and "Sluts in the City" are off the air, "The Wire" would fall in line next, I guess. I've enjoyed it more each year. I would like to know what happen to Ziggy's cousin though. I assume he's in jail still.
thanks coz!!! yeah i seen it damn!!!!!!!!! omar and mouzone babyc :rock: :rock: :rock: stringer should never have crossed them 2..so i guess he had to pay in the end...
Just finished watching it for the 3rd time! :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:
Ultimately, the one who really sold him out though was Avon. That was supposed to be his boy right. Sucks for the police department. They just got the wire up and running and now dude is dead. Great writing!Quote:
Originally posted by HieroHero@Dec 13 2004, 05:16 PM
thanks coz!!! yeah i seen it damn!!!!!!!!! omar and mouzone babyc :rock: :rock: :rock: stringer should never have crossed them 2..so i guess he had to pay in the end...
Yup, the cops are gonna be PISSED!!! Now we have to see what Avon's next move will be. Without Stringer where's he gonna get his product? He's still got Marlo to contend with and he was never really down with the cartel. And even tho he gave up Stringer to Mouson, he was at war with Omar and peeps are gonna expect him to hit back at him.
Shit, this last episode probably should really be 3 hours long. It's like the culminating episode for the first 3 seasons! :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:
that was a great end to the wire.... bunny colvin man :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:
good police :bowdown: :sad:
Hell yes. :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:
It'll be interesting to see just how long McNulty will feel satisfied walking a beat.
It'll also be interesting to see what happens now that Marlo is running things.
It'll be interesting...can't wait for next season!
i dont think that will go too well..i mean mcnulty hated working on the water when he got assigned back there..he lives for big cases and being involved..i dont see how he could stand walking a beat at all..Quote:
Originally posted by Cozymandias@Dec 21 2004, 11:59 AM
Hell yes. :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:
It'll be interesting to see just how long McNulty will feel satisfied walking a beat.
i dont think that will go too well..i mean mcnulty hated working on the water when he got assigned back there..he lives for big cases and being involved..i dont see how he could stand walking a beat at all.. [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by HieroHero+Dec 21 2004, 12:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (HieroHero @ Dec 21 2004, 12:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Cozymandias@Dec 21 2004, 11:59 AM
Hell yes. :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:
It'll be interesting to see just how long McNulty will feel satisfied walking a beat.
Yup, some big case will come along to lure his ass back in. :bigthumb:
I'm just glad that Avon got what he richly deserved. Plus he saw the warrant with Stringer's name on it! Sweeeeet! I think the guilt of letting his best friend get capped is really starting to eat at him. That plus Marlo showing up at his trial is better than him getting capped himself. Great writing on this show! :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:
That season finale was WEAK......muhh phuckin DIET WATER....as far as i'm concerned...it ended last week