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<chief> hey hiero
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<scottBSU> what's up in here?
<HieroHero> hy
<HieroHero> some1s arrived
<scottBSU> hell yeah, wouldn't miss it
<chief> hey all
<HieroHero> so my time calculations are right ts 3 pm in a few minutes?
<scottBSU> about 9
<HieroHero> cool..its 7:51 am sunday here in melbourne, australia...
<HieroHero> had 2 get up early...
<scottBSU> damn, gettin you out of bed huh?
<scottBSU> lol
<chief> man, thats early
<scottBSU> i've only been up for about 3 hours, and it's 4 here
<HieroHero> whats some questions u got for be?
<HieroHero> haha
<scottBSU> i have no idea, i just mainly came to watch
<chief> well i have a few
<scottBSU> guess i'll ask something, if more people don't show up
<HieroHero> yeah
<chief> you there guest?
<HieroHero> last time there was abt 10 people...
<scottBSU> what ?s do you have chief?
<chief> i went to the decatur show so i couldnt be online
<scottBSU> sweet
<scottBSU> wish they'd play round here
<HieroHero> i gota c ouple..."has your outlook on like changed since dearest
christian
<HieroHero> ?
<scottBSU> i'd like to know if the new album has any hip-hop on it like the
first two albums
<chief> i am just curious whether any songs will be released onto the radio
stations with the way they are selling them
<HieroHero> and did "all those muthaphuckin reasons" work on J-Lives unreleased
album
<HieroHero> brians online!
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<chief> so where are you at scott?
<scottBSU> indiana
<scottBSU> Ball State U
<HieroHero> hey chief, what was the decatur show like?
<chief> it was sweet
<chief> i had to work and i made it to the 900 show, it was about a 3 hour
drive
<HieroHero> how old r u guys?
<scottBSU> i'm 20
<Rory_Roh> 18
<HieroHero> 20 here 2
<chief> 28
<chief> sup rory
<HieroHero> chief u ol skool from the 1st album? not many left...
<Rory_Roh> Not much, glad to see more people showed up for this chat
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<chief> hell yes, i have all
<Brian221> hello all
<scottBSU> that's what got me into it too, even though i was young
<chief> sup brian
<Rory_Roh> hell
<Rory_Roh> o
<HieroHero> question 1: be, has your outlook on life changed sinced dearest
christian?
<scottBSU> lol
<Brian221> Here's how its gonna work...........
<Brian221> I'm gonna be on the phone with Be and will relay to him what
everyone says
<HieroHero> cool cool
<Brian221> I'll start things he says with BE: alkjdlajgsdglasd
<Brian221> get it?
<scottBSU> right on
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<Rory_Roh> cool
<Brian221> okay, I'll call him up now, their at their hotel room in Minneapolis
right now
<HieroHero> question 2: did "all those muthaphuckin reasons" work on j-lives
unreleased album?
<HieroHero> k
<chief> Are there going to be any of the songs released on the radio with the
way you are selling the cds?
<Brian221> Okay, here his
<Brian221> BE: hello everyone
<HieroHero> hello!
<Rory_Roh> hello, Be
<Brian221> BE: yeah, there may be a couple of singles off of F*ciked music
<chief> go hiero
<Brian221> BE: I just wanted to explain to every one the storyu behind F*cked
Music
<Guest> does Be think Eminem haa any talent
<HieroHero> cool
<Brian221> BE: originally it was there is no spoon
<Brian221> BE: we were going to release some stuff that we already had
<Brian221> BE: but we ended up creating a whole new album, which ended up a
great experience
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<Brian221> BE: It was trying....spiritually, metally,
physically...................but it was worth it
<Brian221> BE: but it was worth it
<HieroHero> will we ever hear your cover of inner city blues? it seems perfect
for pm dawn..
<Brian221> BE: I neeeded a place to vent, and wanted something to give to the
fans
<chief> I just wanted to say BE, the song if she loves me, is awesome
<Brian221> BE: In the past, my albusm have been about my spiritual path, but
right now, I'm not really on any spiritual path
<Brian221> BE: Its more emotional than spiritual
<HieroHero> interesting
<chief> very
<Brian221> BE: Im trying to put forth that spiritual and emotional , can be one
in the same thing
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<Brian221> BE: You guys, the fans at this site, through F*ckede Music, are my
proverbial shoulder to cry on
<HieroHero> haha
<lisa> is JC ever gonna sing lead on any of the songs?
<TheXodus> are they being shipped soon?
<HieroHero> so is fucked music intensely personal once again?
<Brian221> BE: yeah, you should have the cds before Christmas
<TheXodus> alright~~~!~~!
<Brian221> BE: It takes some time....to sign each of em
<TheXodus> eye understand
<Brian221> BE: and I'm imbetween movin studios, homes, life
<TheXodus> why the title? if u dont mind me asking
<HieroHero> whats happening to bliss studios?
<Brian221> BE: the title
<Brian221> BE: originally it was "No SPoon", the songs were going to be about
how reality isn't reality - so to speak
<Brian221> BE: when I actually sat downl to write the songs, they kind of took
on their own identiyt
<TheXodus> personal?
<Brian221> BE: what i noticed in all the songs, they all took on the
perspective of some one, some thing, or some situation, that is IE F*cked
<Brian221> BE: whcih you'll see, when you hear em yourself
<TheXodus> is F*cked music a lengthy disk?
<Brian221> BE: the songs really come from a sort of 'dark' for lack of better
words take
<Rory_Roh> Is there a darker feeling to the songs?
<Brian221> BE: which can be necessary for any system, you gotta take a shit
some time
<scottBSU> is there any of the older album type hip hop stuff on it?
<chief> Ilol
<HieroHero> haha
<Brian221> BE: sort of, one song has the slow rap thing like set adrift
<Brian221> BE: and there's some stuff more like where I'm at with hip-hop
<Brian221> BE: in particular, there's a song called Be Bastard, thats more like
set adrift
<HieroHero> what was JC's involvement on this album?
<lisa> is JC ever gonna sing lead in any of the songs????
<TheXodus> are u in some ways on a pattern 4 freedom like prince and his
masters?
<Brian221> BE: to the darker feeling to the songs, its not necessarily dark,
but there's a sadder feeling
<Rory_Roh> i see
<Brian221> BE: It was necessary for me to grow up now, cause I don't really
want to do more songs with depressing feeliongs
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<Guest> what do you think about Eminems success
<Brian221> BE: it sort of has cleansed my soul for future records
<HieroHero> was there a band 4 fucked music?
<Brian221> BE: JC produces like 3 of the tracks on the album - and he'll have a
few solo's on the next album
<lisa> great!!
<HieroHero> yay
<scottBSU> when's the next album targeted for?
<chief> how are the sales so far?
<Brian221> BE: I think every 1's ready for freedom as far as musics' concered,
I've been burnt by a lot of record co's
<Brian221> BE: Its hard to know who to trust when all you want is to be loved
in the 1st place
<TheXodus> very true
<HieroHero> do you think you could have got a record deal for this album?
<Brian221> BE: this album is my first experiece to make music without any
corporate crap
<TheXodus> Is there a big booklet with ure thoughts in this new album F*cked
music
<Rory> Has not having a record company been a liberating experience for you?
<Brian221> BE: you'll see some stuff on the BONUS DISC that the suits would
have kept off, like the original intro to Jesus Wept, which is like 11 minutes
<scottBSU> nice
<Brian221> BE: The into was called meddling my mind
<TheXodus> gosh, eye love that album
<chief> sweet
<HieroHero> so do you think we will see the REAL Be, on fucked music, not the
watered down record label shit
<TheXodus> thats my fav... glad thats gonna be ont here
<Brian221> BE: I already have a record deal because of this album
<HieroHero> dope!!!
<scottBSU> sweet
<lisa> can you say what label?? or not yet ??
<TheXodus> R alot of outtakes from jesus wept besides teh intro gonna be on
there?
<Brian221> BE: not yet, they're probably watching :-)
<Rory> It's great to see that you're taking control of your own destiny through
the internet
<lisa> lol
<HieroHero> what album is she loves me from?
<Brian221> BE: there was a song we called non-fiction buring was gonna be on
Jesus Wept
<Brian221> BE: there's 11 tracks on the bonus disc
<lisa> sweet
<TheXodus> and how many on F*cked msuic?
<Brian221> BE: we're looking for more for a second unreleased disc
<scottBSU> awesome
<Brian221> BE: we've got like 100 tracks, so were gonna keep doing voluumss
<TheXodus> awsome
<HieroHero> do you own all the masters to your tracks?
<Brian221> BE: one of these songs on the unreleased is a solo song JC did from
Of the Heart
<lisa> sweet !!
<TheXodus> the one were getting now?
<Brian221> BE: 11 songs that represent F*cked Music, plus some bonuses' - it'll
be a surprise
<TheXodus> nice:)
<TheXodus> eye want 2 get it b4 christmas...
<TheXodus> :)
<HieroHero> can you explain to us what exactly went down with gee street?
<lisa> did you guys do any duets with anyone on this album??
<Brian221> BE: no, not from previous records, I own non e of the old stuff,
just the new
<scottBSU> that sucks
<HieroHero> damn
<HieroHero> thats fucked...
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<TheXodus> are u happy in life
<Brian221> earthBE: yes, GeeStrret initially was a business owned by John Baker
who really is sincerely one of the cooles mutha fuckas on the face of the
<Brian221> BE: He made some bad business decisions and musical decisions with
the direction of his lable
<Brian221> BE: when he got connected to v2, they put their troubles on him, got
rid of him
<Brian221> BE: Idiots like the guy who siad Pm Dawn is Light FM are from V2 not
John Baker
<Brian221> BE he was originally my mangager and may be again
<Brian221> BE: John made me Godfathre of his kids - we had similar qualities -
we're really good friends
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<TheXodus> are u happy in life?
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<Brian221> BE: happy in life? no, next ?
<HieroHero> haha
<scottBSU> lol
<HieroHero> what does christian think of dearest christian?
<TheXodus> any paticular reason if u dont mind me asking?
<Brian221> BE: he thinks its funy
<HieroHero> its in the albums Xodus
<Rory> Were you able to do everything, artistically speaking, that you wanted
to do with F*cked Music
<Brian221> BE when hes' 17 he'll take it seriously - his favorite son'gs
hale-bopp
<HieroHero> did all the muthaphuckin reasons work on J-lives unreleased album?
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<chief> man my screen went nuts
<Guest> eminem?
<Brian221> BE: artistically, I almost had complete freedom, I couldnt pay for
some cameos and orchestras i wanted
<Brian221> BE: nope, not that I know of with J-Live
<HieroHero> k
<HieroHero> what has happened in between dearest christian and fucked music
that we should know about?
<Brian221> BE: I tell you a funny story bout eminem
<scottBSU> lol
<Brian221> BE: we almost signed eminem to Rawshack
<HieroHero> hah
<Brian221> BE: but Dre offered more money so we lost him
<TheXodus> did u meet him/
<Brian221> BE: nah, I never met him
<Guest> did joni mitchell ever hear or comment on ways of the wind?
<TheXodus> u think he's an act?
<Brian221> BE: I stayed out of the way, becasue if people know Pm Dawn's
involved, they ask for more money
<TheXodus> understandable
<Brian221> BE: she commented on everything I sample of here's, including Set
Adrift,
<HieroHero> do you think there is still a stigma attached to pm dawn?
<Guest> what'd joni say?
<Brian221> BE she loved wasy of the wind, but her favorite sample of heres was
forever damaged which sampled "Dont Interrupt the Sorrow"
<Brian221> BE: she said "O my God"
<Guest> those are great songs
<TheXodus> any paticular samples in fucked music? or live instru,ments
<HieroHero> whats different from when u 1st came out..2 pm dawn 2day..what have
u learned?
<Brian221> BE: no, no famous samples on F*cked Music, couldnt afford to clear
em.....which Is why it took so damn long
<TheXodus> but nice slow jams:)
<Brian221> BE: on my first album, I was a little more open toward how I
sounded, this album, it was me and JC ina room doing all our own stuff - didn't even
have to hire engineers
<scottBSU> what's the story on the cover of sweet home alabama?
<Brian221> BE: first album was mostly theory, mostly done first in my head,
this time I just made the music
<HieroHero> what sort of styles of music are in fucked music, any electronica?
<Brian221> BE which is why they're becoming more an more personal
<TheXodus> any spritual thoughts on F*cked music?
<Brian221> otBE: nothing 180 bpm, but some stuff in electronical are
influencing us al
<Brian221> BE: alot
<HieroHero> cool
<Brian221> BE: Savannahville and To Love and Hate Seriouly are on the Bonus
Disc
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<chief> well that answered my question
<HieroHero> and what about commercial success? your thoughts?
<scottBSU> gotta go, have a good show guys
<scottBSU> thanks for the record
<chief> later scott
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<HieroHero> ahhh finally ill get 2 heat love and hate!
<Brian221> BE: we didn't cover sweet home alabama, I jmust liked that song and
incorporated it into someting a little more modern
<Brian221> BE: I believe the guys of lynard skynard didn't approve
<TheXodus> hey, anything sounds simular to perfect for you on any of the disks?
<HieroHero> whats your greatest record?
<chief> Whats your favorite artist?
<Brian221> BE: yeah, there's a Ballad called "Air", alot of the songs are
ballads, but not done in the traditional way
<Brian221> BE: more like Pm Dawn ballads
<TheXodus> nice:)
<TheXodus> my fav
<TheXodus> what do u think about Prince?
<Brian221> BE: we're probably going to re-record perferct for yuou for the next
album
<TheXodus> He;s the man!:)
<TheXodus> CANT WAIT!!!!:) eye love perfect for u
<Rory> Perfect for You is great
<Brian221> BE: shit I've been trying to hook up with prince all decade, I love
him
<Brian221> BE: and I'm also happy that he's callin himself prince again
<HieroHero> youve talked a lot abt your despair, what keeps you going?
<TheXodus> u gonna meet him in Minneapalice? he's around ya know
<Brian221> BE: LOL
<TheXodus> eye heard he likes you alot, from an inside souce:)
<Brian221> BE: the main thing that keeps me goin is the fact that I've had a
lot of horrible stuff happen to me, I know at some point, there's got to be a whole
lotta good shit to make up for it
<Rory> Have the men in suits been preventing you from getting together with
prince?
<eternalu> karma rulles us all
<Brian221> BE: yeah, I heard the same thing too, I met prince once
<TheXodus> he can get with prince now.. freesom is a great thing
<Brian221> BE: after the fisrt album, we did a remix of comotas at paisley
park,
<Brian221> BE and recorded the song " Sacraficial Blue" at paisley park which
is on the bonus disc
<TheXodus> is that slow
<TheXodus> ?
<HieroHero> after 4 albums, how do you challenge yourself? to come with
something new, fresh, original..and different from the last
<Brian221> BE: Prince sent us a song for jesus wept that we didn't use cause it
didn't fit in, but it ended up on the soundtrack to "Girl 6"
<Guest> how'd the medley at the end of Jesus wept come about?
<TheXodus> What song is that???
<TheXodus> eye have girl 6, and everything outtake prince has done:)
<Guest> fantasia Ghetto
<Brian221> BE: originaaly we were gonna do a medly of songs at the beggining of
Jesus Wept that no one knew
<Brian221> BE: and the meddly at the end got changed - the not so light side of
Fantasia
<TheXodus> what song was on gir six?
<HieroHero> whta happened to that psychedelia?
<Brian221> BE: She Spoke to Me
<TheXodus> damn, there's a new 8 minute song of that on his Vault cd
<Brian221> BE: what psychedelia?
<HieroHero> haha
<HieroHero> no idea
<Brian221> BE: oh, thats cool
<HieroHero> naa, stuff like in the presence of mirrors? theres been nuthin like
that since then!
<Brian221> BE; psychedelia in my music. or in music in general
<HieroHero> in your music
<Brian221> BE: I think there's a lot of songs like that, 9:45 wake up, how much
more pschedelic can ya get
<Brian221> BE: Art Deco Halos
<TheXodus> so the cd's will be shipped b4christmas?
<HieroHero> i just got the pm dawn video collection..are most of those videos
your interpretation of the song, or some1 elses?
<Brian221> BE yeah
<HieroHero> i stand corrected
<Rory> In the forum, you said that at the next chat you'd address what happened
to So on and So on? What's up with that?
<Brian221> BE: they are all uterly. and completely - someone elses vision of
the song
<HieroHero> yes i thought so!!! i was totally confused
<Brian221> BE: okay, here we go
<HieroHero> i thought id misinterpreted your meaning...
<eternalu> what church was used in the video patient eyes?
<Brian221> BE: originally So on and son , was a song we sampled called " Funky
Soul" by David somethin
<Brian221> BE: what we sampled was a 45
<Brian221> BE from the lable instant records
<Guest> Be,your influences and samples are the best.You must have a great
record collection
<Brian221> BE we asked them for permission and they said yes
<Brian221> BE the dude sued instant records for giving me clearance to use the
song
<Brian221> BE: the record label told us he'd plead guilty if we didn't pay his
legal fees
<TheXodus> that sux
<Rory> yeah
<Brian221> BE: we asked permission from the record label,got it, and used it
<Brian221> BE: we're still fightin that battle today
<HieroHero> what are some of these pop artists youve been producing to make ur
money?artists/tracks
<Brian221> BE: we've already won the case 3 times, we're in the middle of
another appeal
<TheXodus> how long ago was that?
<Brian221> BE: I'm not supposed to talk about it
<HieroHero> yeah dont
<eternalu> what church was used in the video patient eyes?
<Brian221> BE: they claimed that that sample made us sell millions of the
album, they sued for almost 30 million
<HieroHero> ridiculous!
<HieroHero> hey be, shouldnt they be sueing the record company??? i mean they
made the money!
<Brian221> BE: ever since So on and Son on, I haven't earned a penny on any
song I've written
<TheXodus> eye gotta run, but are we expecting the cd in the next week or week
in a half?
<Brian221> they did sue the record co, but because there wasn't a legal
contract with the record label and that artist - they went directly to Pm
<HieroHero> hey be, have u ever been 2 australia?
<Brian221> BE: I think Brian already told you everything
<Brian221> BE: there's a new guy, Marcus, we're doin the bulk of his new album
<HieroHero> cool
<Brian221> BE: he's at www.gomarcus.com
<TheXodus> bye bye prince be
<Brian221> BE: we produced an d wrote a version of Pop-Music for him
<Brian221> BE: never been down there yet, maybe sometime soon - been gettin
requests to come down and perform
<HieroHero> requests ya gotta make it!
<Brian221> BE: cds will be in your hands before X-mas
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<HieroHero> the art of sampling? u need to teach a few of these young bucks!
<Rory> You said that you have a label because of this album, are there any
plans to release F*cked Music through that label?
<Brian221> BE: I don't think in the next 10 years there's going to be much more
sampling, we're hearing the last of it strong ly now
<Brian221> BE: at least in hip-hop, they've mostly abandoned sampling
<HieroHero> do you think that the only people who will ever truely understand
pm dawn is yourself?
<Brian221> BE: no, F*cked Music will only be at this site
<Rory> cool
<HieroHero> collaborations that never happened?
<HieroHero> could u tell us the phrase thats gonna be on the fucked music
t-shirt
<Brian221> BE: we did a duet with the BeeGees, "Still Waters Run Deep" and
"Fire With Fire"
<HieroHero> damn!!!
<Brian221> BE: but we might get with them in the future
<Guest> What was the 1st music you remember liking as a child?
<Brian221> BE sorry, donht have it in front of me
<HieroHero> ok
<Brian221> BE: I'll put it on the forum when I get home
<HieroHero> cool
<HieroHero> hey be, gotta be was a huge international hit, you still didnt get
paid 4 that???
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<Brian221> BE: nope, no $$ for it
<HieroHero> ask some questions joe
<Brian221> BE I got paid 0
<HieroHero> fuck
<HieroHero> youve learn some harsh lessons, your new record deal is tight?
<Brian221> BE: Iwell actually, I got paid for everythign, but its in an escrow
account until the court case is done
<Joeberry> hey--am i too late for the chat?
<Brian221> BE: but that account won't even cover my legal fees
<Brian221> BE: Prince BE of Pm Dawn here
<HieroHero> what court is this appeal at?
<Guest> what was the 1st music you were into
<Brian221> BE normally people ask me whats my favorite color, and I always
change it :-)
<HieroHero> haha
<Brian221> BE: I don't rememver any paricular music
<HieroHero> have you heard deltron 3030?
<Brian221> BE richie havens was one of the first thing other that nursery
rhymns
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<Brian221> BE: no what is that?
<HieroHero> a collaboration between del the funky homosapian, the automator,
and kid koala..futuristic stuff
<HieroHero> mc paul barman is on a track
<Brian221> BE: never heard it
<HieroHero> u got those famous "la la's" on fucked music?
<HieroHero> www.75ark.com
<Brian221> BE lol yeah, la la's galore
<Joeberry> so Be--who was your favorite band/artist that you've worked with?
<HieroHero> haha
<Brian221> BE: i was gonna do some work with Automator - but no money
<HieroHero> oh my!!!!
<Brian221> BE: its been an experience, every one was really interesting -
<Brian221> BE: I can't even think of anyone that I disliked
<HieroHero> how are you paying the bills be!!! will this album help you out
<Joeberry> cool:-)
<HieroHero> maybe we should set up a fund
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<Brian221> BE: but i've distanced my first engineer from Of the Heart, and
Bliss album - we had a falling out
<alex> is pm dawn here?
<HieroHero> yep alex
<alex> sweet
<Brian221> BE - prince be of Pm Dawn right here
<Brian221> I'm on the phone with him relaying messages
<alex> ok
<eternalu> be hace you had time to check out the new sade album? if not i
hightly recomend it
<HieroHero> tell us some of the things, that gee street would not allow you to
do, and reasons why
<Guest> does it piss you off that talentless posers are making millions/
<alex> i have a question... where do you (pm dawn) stand religiously?
<Brian221> BE: yeah man, I love SADE's new album so much......man
<HieroHero> why do you think people around the world seemed to get pm dawn more
than in your own country?
<Brian221> BE: umm, I don't know, I would say astrology is my closest thing
<alex> what do you mean by that?
<Brian221> BE: it would require a long conversation
<Brian221> BE and I got a sound check sooner that it would take to explain
<alex> your lyrics in your bliss album often referred to Christ, as did the
cover of your "of the cross.. album"
<HieroHero> this might not be a good question but how many units did dearest
christian sell?
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<Brian221> BE: I do belive in Christ, its hard for me to convey in my music
that my actual belief of the whole system is
<Brian221> BE: I believe, that I, truly and honestly, that I am god
<HieroHero> in dearest christian you talked about hope, that still present in
fucked music?
<alex> you believe you are God?
<Brian221> BE: in order to believe that I am god, I have to believe that
everyone else is god
<Brian221> BE, and that God is powerful enough, and intellegent enough, to be
all people at the same time
<alex> do you think God is perfect?
<Brian221> BE: at some point, every one has been god, everyone has been prince
be
<Brian221> BE: the more you look at a single cell, the more it looks like a
whole planet
<alex> proof of His creation
<alex> do you believe God is perfect?
<Brian221> BE: I've explored all religions, the all have a point
<Joeberry> hey Be--i read somewhere that you were gonna throw in the towel
after Jesus Wept--is that true?
<Brian221> BE: yeah, he's perfect
<alex> then how can he be me? i am not perfect
<Brian221> BE: you dont know that you're not perfect
<HieroHero> back 2 the music...the covers album, what will happen with that?
<alex> i have never been perfect, i was born a sinner.... God HATES sin, so how
could He ever exist in this body? besides the Holy Spirit?
<Brian221> BE you are exactly what is necessary to be you
<Brian221> BE you can talk to God at any time you like, because he's in you
<HieroHero> will we hear your cover of inner city blues? it seems the perfect
track 4 a pm cover
<Brian221> BE and that's the reason he'll listend
<Brian221> BE: we're all so used to being peices of shit that we believe it
<alex> in me as the Holy Spirit, i believe, but only if i believe Christ died
for my sins, and accept Him
<HieroHero> calm down alex
<Brian221> BE God said in the bible " I AM " i mean, he created the devil
<Brian221> BE you can think of it any way you'd like
<alex> the angel, damien, created Satan, by falling from heaven
<alex> God is perfect, God is love
<Guest> enough with the bible lessons
<HieroHero> yes
<Rory> I agree
<Joeberry> can we talk about music?
<HieroHero> be, are their any boundaries with your music?
<HieroHero> that you place on yourself
<Brian221> BE: whats a boundary
<HieroHero> restriction
<HieroHero> somewhere where you wont go
<Brian221> BE: when I'm makin a hit record, yes, but when I make music, no
<Joeberry> be--do you go into each album with a theme or idea for the entire
album? 'Cos Dearest Christian and Jesus Wept seem to me to be themed
<HieroHero> good answer
<Brian221> BE: a record co says, " all this record is fine and dandy, but i
need something to make it sell" so i give em, set adrift or patient eyes
<HieroHero> i just gotta say what a wonderful experience, you treat your fans
so well!!!
<Brian221> BE: yes i go into it with a theme
<Joeberry> cool--can you give us any inclination as to the theme of f*cked
music?
<Brian221> BE with F*Cked music I started with a theme, but it ended up
different then I started out
<HieroHero> everythings fucked...
<Joeberry> lol
<Brian221> BE exactly
<Brian221> we already went into that, I'll post this transcript on the site
later
<alex> well, i love your music, BE, and i sense some truth to it, but also some
searching for THE Truth. this Truth lies in the pages of the Bible, "For God so loved the
world, that He gave His only Son, that whoever believes in Him, shall not perish, but
have eternal life." -John 3:16
<Guest> snore
<Rory> lol
<HieroHero> when i first read an interview with you guys..u seemed different to
the impression i got from your albums/was there somethin their that the record
company was hiding?
<Brian221> BE: there's nothing wrong with believing that
<HieroHero> be, is that you in run dmc's down with the king video??? if so, was
that the pete rock connexion??
<Brian221> BE don't let anyone tell you different
<Joeberry> do any of the musicians from Jesus Wept play on f*cked music?(can u
tell i really liked jesus wept)
<alex> nothing wrong, and EVERYTHING right with believing it
<Brian221> BE: I don't konw, what did I seem like, what s the contrast with the
interview and the albums
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<Brian221> BE: yes, the guitarist, and keyboardest
<Joeberry> awesome! cameron greider?
<Brian221> BE yeah he is awesome
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<Matty_Po> Hello"
<Matty_Po> ?
<Joeberry> oh yes that guy can play
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<Brian221> BE hes' bringing out some of his own material soon too
<Matty_Po> Is the chat still going?
<chief> please forgive me if i ask the same question guys, i am at work now
<Joeberry> cool! i'll keep my eye out for that
<Brian221> BE - Prince be of Pm Dawn here
<Matty_Po> Brian, did you get my email last night?
<HieroHero> it was an interview that appeared in a street mag here in
oz...swearing, attitude, i dont know just took me by surprise..its like a contrast between the
music u make/and the people you are
<Matty_Po> I sent some questions to the webmaster of The Infinite Dedication.
Did he get them to ask?
<HieroHero> less so these days though i must admit
<Brian221> BE: I use profanity all the time,k its not alwasy necessary in my
music
<Brian221> BE God fuckin loves me
<chief> lol
<Brian221> i didnt get to my email today, what were the questions
<Matty_Po> PM: Some reviewers have seen your "religious" explorations as
Christian revelations, whereas I have seen it as that plus that of Eastern thought plus
your own "stuff." Where do you really sit?
<Matty_Po> I'm trying to keep them as breif as possible. They were long.
<HieroHero> what have you been able to do on fucked music that you would never
be able to do on a label?specifics..im guessing the title is one
<Brian221> BE I don't think record co's hide things from thing, they
exaggereate othere things about me to market records
<HieroHero> haha
<HieroHero> i see
<Brian221> BE sprituality is a big part of my character, so they highlight it
<Brian221> BE I've come across a truth, that the record co's dont care about,
theyr're just trying to sell units
<Matty_Po> I see. What about the Christian/Catholic thing as opposed to "what's
a human? what's a lifetime?" for instance? Two different things, in name, right?
<Matty_Po> Christian/Catholic like "Jesus Wept" for instance/
<Brian221> BE I utilize profanity in instances when I have to
<chief> hey hiero, do you have icq?
<HieroHero> yeah 9839835
<Brian221> BE matty, clarity a bit more
<HieroHero> how are you going to try and promote this album?
<alex> is there anyway i can contact you later BE?
<Matty_Po> OK, "lifetimes" come up a lot in your music, (a more eastern
concept) but so does "God" a Christian/Catholic concept. Where do you sit? In between
those? Is there doubt of those, faith in those, what?
<Brian221> BE: the part of your lifetime that should- elevations turns
emotiosn, turns humans into lifetime
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<HieroHero> matt, hes gone in 2 depth on his spirituality, check the transcript
<Brian221> matty, I'll send you the chat transcript, we already covered it
<Matty_Po> I see. Thanks.
<Matty_Po> Next question:
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<Matty_Po> Some critics have...well...criticized you for being abstruse/hard to
understand in what you write. Do you make any sort of effort in that regard?
<Matty_Po> I can somewhat see where they are coming from, though Idon't totally
agree.
<HieroHero> as a "new" fan..i find it amazing that such good music were huge
hits back in the day..how did that go down?
<Matty_Po> (the critics, that is)
<Brian221> BE: um, all the time - i mean, its really hard to make sense of
stuff that doesnt make sense,
<Matty_Po> Amen.
<HieroHero> your lyrics always stand out, what is the writing process for you?
<Matty_Po> I agree. Thanks.
<Brian221> BE" like religion, spirituality, religion - har d to explaing
<Matty_Po> True. Like the concept of "infinity" It is beyond human grasp.
<Matty_Po> We cannot fully conceive of it.
<Brian221> BE I'm just trying to be human, and make sense of the things
happening to me realisticalyy, spiritually, and emotionaly
<Brian221> BE no problem
<alex> sometimes i think we make life more complex than it is......
<Matty_Po> Do you feel, Prince, that you are exceptionally different from
others in those spiritual and emotional and reality experiences that you have?
<Matty_Po> Do you have them more intensely?
<Guest> Be ,does it frustrate you that far less talented people are making lots
of money/
<Matty_Po> Or have them while others do not?
<Matty_Po> Do you have some sort of third eye most others do not?
<HieroHero> guest, they arent makin money the record labels are, they just b
selling their ass
<Brian221> BE: yes, I feel I'm very different
<Brian221> BE: brutally honest with myself about myself
<Matty_Po> Do you feel yourself an antennae for your peculiar experiences?
<Matty_Po> emotionally, realistically, spiritually...?
<Brian221> BE" whioch Is why I don't tell people about my beliefs, but people
have been asking for 10 years now
<Matty_Po> I see.
<Guest> what the f*ck
<alex> BE, is there any way to contact you another time?
<Brian221> BE you fans here, at least make an attempt to understand me
<HieroHero> whats JC like?
<HieroHero> you offer so much of yourself in your music..its admirable..
<chief> yea, where is JC?
<Matty_Po> Well, Be, I think it is very much an issue of interpretation with
your music and good words. I think that is intrinsic to it all.
<Brian221> BE: and it don't bother me about less talented people, because they
probably need alot of money
<HieroHero> as opposed to you
<Brian221> BE: do you want to ask JC himself? he's here
<alex> any other way to contact you at another time, BE>?
<Matty_Po> As is illustrated by your unwillingness to express your beliefs.
<Matty_Po> Whichis great.
<Matty_Po> JC, do you ever rap?
<Brian221> JC - i'
<Matty_Po> I didn't know he was in attendance!
<HieroHero> JC: be seems an intense individual! are you much the same as your
brother, what are the differences
<Brian221> BE: when JC was in the 1st grade, he wrote a Hai Ku about himself
<HieroHero> man
<Matty_Po> OH GEEZ!!!! I almost FORGOT: How was it working with Boy George? He
told me "it all went by so quickly, I wish we had more time"
<Brian221> BE " Nice Clean shirt" was the way it ended
<Brian221> JC is a damn comedian
<Brian221> met him in Decattur
<HieroHero> u still calling yourself JC the eternal, and be what happened to
reason
<Brian221> BE: Boy Geordge was real cool
<eternalu> must agree... there is a yin yang about the 2
<Matty_Po> Did you feel the same way he did, that it went by very quickly, the
experience?
<Brian221> BE: if you ever noticed, JC's hair style is alwasy 10 years behind
<eternalu> when we gonna see hte nocturnal come back and kick a few again?
<HieroHero> haha!
<Brian221> JC is the eternal, Prince Be was the Nocturnal
<chief> lol
<Matty_Po> Why did you approach Boy George in the first place?
<Matty_Po> What was it?
<Brian221> BE: yeah, the nocturnal is ready to rap
<eternalu> yea i allways seen the nocturnal expressed as in the liss album as
the hardcore side of be
<HieroHero> JC: whats it like always being in the background? its sort a jazzy
jeff/will smith thing going on
<eternalu> thats what i was wondering about wehn is it or if come back
<Matty_Po> LOL @ jazzy jeff!
<Brian221> BE: I got sound check in a few
<HieroHero> well be, thanks 4 spending so much time with us,,i am now feening 4
fucked music..
<Brian221> BE: we'll do this again soon, like next week
<chief> what time is the show?
<HieroHero> very gracious
<chief> cool
<Matty_Po> Thank you!!!!
<Joeberry> thanks Be and JC!
<Matty_Po> Brian, when will the discs ship?
<Rory> It's great that you care so much about your fans
<Brian221> BE:" 8:30 or 9
<chief> thanks be an jc
<Matty_Po> Yeah!
<alex> anyway to contact you all later?
<alex> BE or JC?
<HieroHero> u the man!
<Brian221> BE: alright, lets make a weekly even of this
<Matty_Po> Yeah, any way to contact you? We're looking out for you, you know!
<Guest> thanks for the time
<HieroHero> dope idea!
<eternalu> alex leave a message on the board.... be from time to times goes
throught and replies
<HieroHero> how did u find the chat be?
<chief> hiero i added you to my list
<HieroHero> ok chief..cool
<chief> if you dont mind
<Brian221> wow!
<alex> keep seeking the Truth
<Brian221> I'm gonna have a hell of a phone bill this month
<HieroHero> haha!!!
<alex> its closer than you think
<Matty_Po> Ha ha lol
<Rory> Anybody out there got ICQ?
<HieroHero> yeah rory...mines 9839835
<chief> needs some help paying it man?
<chief> lol
<Brian221> 9443763
<chief> i do rory
<Brian221> nah
<Rory> mines 91491061, feel free to ICQ me
<Matty_Po> Are PB/JC off now?
<Joeberry> yep--849485
<HieroHero> brian- u didnt ask any questions?
<Brian221> - I'll just withhold it from record sales!!
<Brian221> yeah, they have to get ready for their show
<Matty_Po> OK. Thank you SO MUCH!!!! YOU RULE, BRIAN!!!!
<Brian221> ah, too busy typing all the stuff he had to say
<Brian221> no prob
<HieroHero> haha yes
<HieroHero> man that was so good...
<chief> i love this sight man
<HieroHero> i must have asked vbe a 100 questions!
<eternalu> there is a icq active list server running on the pmdawn server
<Brian221> thanks
<Matty_Po> Is there a forum on this site where we all can chat? How about an
eGroups mailing list?
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<alex> thank you brian, have a good one, man
<HieroHero> the forum matt
<Brian221> I like to think of it as a community, now, not a site
<Brian221> later
<Matty_Po> It is on this site?
<HieroHero> peace
<Brian221> liked on this site
<Brian221> I'll be writing my own forum soon though
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<Brian221> dude, BE just left
<BigRed> dammit
<HieroHero> haha.,..he was here 4 2 hours
<BigRed> i just got the email
<Brian221> I'll post the transcript from this chat tonight or tomorrow sometime
<BigRed> aight
<chief> cool
<HieroHero> hey brian u think be enjoyed it?
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<BigRed> if only i had checked my email earlier
<Brian221> hell yeah, he wants to do it again
<Brian221> loves his fans
<HieroHero> dope
<chief> i hope your awake now hiero
<Rory> that's awesome
<chief> lol
<HieroHero> haha yeah
<HieroHero> its 10 now...
<Brian221> Be also gave me a track list from F*cked Music earlier
<Matty_Po> Ooh, tell us please
<Brian221> not in order...................
<Matty_Po> Have you heard it yet?
<Matty_Po> When will they be shipping?
<Brian221> "Slowly but Surely"
<Matty_Po> ok
<Matty_Po> ...
<Brian221> "Blastphemy"
<Matty_Po> uh huh....
<Brian221> "Being Nowhere"
<Brian221> "Air"
<chief> hey brian, has this taken up most of your time?
<Brian221> "Trying Times"
<chief> with the sales and all
<Brian221> "Be Bastard"
<Brian221> "Dont' Make Me Lie to You","In My Dreams","I can See Myself"
<Brian221> "Insufficient Funds","Superstition","Stay Away From Me"
<Brian221> revamped "I Hate Myself for You"
<Brian221> Its taken time, oh yeah, but well worth it, i still go to school
full time and work 24 hours a week too
<HieroHero> nice work
<Rory> Thanks for doing it
<Brian221> sure
<BigRed> yeah, thanks
<BigRed> did he happen to give you a tracklist for the bonus disc?
<chief> bigtime man
<Brian221> he didn't know them all by heart
<Brian221> two of them were "Medling my Mind" the original intro to JEsus Wept
<Matty_Po> Cool!
<BigRed> kool, i look forward to hear that
<Brian221> and anoher called Sacrificial Blue
<chief> have you heard it yet brian
<HieroHero> brian, are u sending be the orders, or is he sending you the cds?
<Brian221> nope, I may get mine tomorrow if they have time to stop and drop
mine off on their way home
<Brian221> Be's sending tyhe orders
<Rory> Who is making the CD's for them?
<Rory> Making the copies I mean.
<Matty_Po> OH Geez, are they going to come to Florida on their tour. Gee, even
one stop SOMEWHERE would be wonderful. We're cool, too, you know.
<chief> no your not lol
<chief> recount
<chief> lol
<HieroHero> hey matt, be said he might make it to australia..that would be
special..
<eternalu> hahah
<Brian221> does anyone have the ability to save this transcript? I can't copy
out of this java window
<chief> just kidding matty
<eternalu> the mp3s should be all back online next week...
<Brian221> they were in orlando over the summer once
<HieroHero> oh no! ive got no idea
<Brian221> Be prints them himself
<HieroHero> u were supposed 2 log it brian
<Brian221> well, I thought I could just copy it, I'll find a way
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<eternalu> i got from 4 when i came in
<Rory> I've got about a minute before Brian came in
<HieroHero> i was the first here..but i dont know 2 save it
<eternalu> you in a irc client?
<Rory> There's probably an irc command, but I don't know it
<HieroHero> yeah i know..
<HieroHero> well im not actually in irc
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<Brian221> Rory, I love you......can you email the chat to webmaster@pmdawn.net
<Brian221> from where you have it
<Brian221> oh yeah, there probably is just a command to copy it all
<Rory> I'll make it a text file
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<Brian221> thanks man, I own you one
<chief> cool
<Rory> no problem
<HieroHer> hey rory how u do that?
<Rory> I'm using textpad
<HieroHer> oh ok
<chief> thanks man
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<Brian221> well, I'm gonna take off..........got lots of orders to process
<chief> thanks brian for your time
<Brian221> peace
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<chief> take it easy guys, my icq is45812574
<Rory> I can't get the beginning of the chat, does anyone happen to have that
<Rory> ?
<chief> hiero might
<eternalu> hieroher was in here before i was
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<Champagn> Howdy everybody
<eternalu> let me see if there is anyway to get it fomr the server
<HieroHer> yeah u gotta try cause we dont wanna lose this
<eternalu> nope was just loggong connection history
<Champagn> How was the chat, everyone?
<BigRed> i missed it, doh
<Matty_Po> Excellent
<Matty_Po> Doh!
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<Champagn> Good, good...the guys drop any big news?
<eternalu> i just got from my entry.. did you save it rory?
<HieroHer> it was dope bew, talked 4 2 hours, but i dont know how to copy it?
<Champagn> Alrighty, cool hope somebody can copy it
<Champagn> Catch y'all later
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