hope... needs to be revisted

[Hero1]

if there is no hope you are basically dead.. whats the point? why don't people value their own lives and themselves more highly? other people right.... hope is life ... hope is the future..

[syxxpm]

man...i thought this was a post about bes greatest artistic achievement...the song hope!..now im really down :( ....... i keed i keed :)

[frEk]

i believe its quite possible to value yourself but have lost hope about life.

[Hero1]

yeah but you would be placing other shit ABOVE you're own life

[humanity_Sin_egma]

if there is no hope you are basically dead.. whats the point? why don't people value their own lives and themselves more highly? other people right.... hope is life ... hope is the future..
liking this thought of hope
...especially in terms of the fruit of the spirit and with balance of course
http://www.spirithome.com/fruitssp.html
nice post H. hope it doesn't disappear :D

[wendyful04]

i believe its quite possible to value yourself but have lost hope about life.


Honestly, I wanted to die last night. Not because I don't love myself anymore.
Because I hate this world so much sometimes.

I didn't want to get drunk or forget about anything. I didn't want to smoke something or sleep or read my book. I just wanted to leave this place behind. I don't like it.

[syxxpm]

me .....im more of the every living organism dead in the universe while i rule on a thrown with no followers kinda fantasy when i go about hating the world :)

[Hero1]

if i hate the world..i just wanna fight it.. i dont want to give in...

[humanity_Sin_egma]

awwww, Wendy, you're not the first to feel that way I think. It is what it is. (The World or whatever gets to anyone.) Anything negative, painful, uncomfortable, or hurtful is only one side of the equation. The other side is all the "good" that is out there and in you. I hope you keep that in mind when you feel that way. How goes it today? Better; I hope.
*p.s. Sometimes a person who feels like they can't stand it anymore has their breakthrough and attitude of gratitude just around the corner. Everybody has their stories, ya know.
peace

[Hero1]

true for all the bad there is always the good..thats what i try to focus on..makes life a lot more easier and enjoyable too

[humanity_Sin_egma]

A few more things, 'cause minimizing what you feel is not fair either.
If you like to read, then maybe this will help. If not, then I
apologize for the glut of links and information. If I said I knew the
answers for you or anyone else I'd be so wrong.

Many examples of similar situations spring to mind. If you like, then pm me. If not, then no problem.
Today's world and how to live in the "Spiritual Challenges of
PostModern Life" is a good place to work out where you are in the thick
of it.:
http://www.spirithome.com/modern.html
Divisiveness and conflict or we pull ourselves apart, spirit brings us
together starts a meditation on why things work this way and what
anyone can do to make it better. (hopefully)
http://www.spirithome.com/divisive.html
Finally, "Suffering" as different as all of us are, the read and
gleaning will vary. http://www.spirithome.com/suffer.html
I don't know and am just trying to help. Take care of yourself and give that son of yours a big hug!

[Hero1]

if your plane crashed in the water..and everybody died would you drown on purpose or try to survive?

[syxxpm]

survive.....no questions asked

[humanity_Sin_egma]

HOPE! Just when you need it most Oprah Magazine Nov. 2005
pretty good read
http://www2.oprah.com/omagazine/200511/omag_200511_us.jhtml